Another thing, which you clearly don't seem to understand, is that hugging does not equal rape. If so, then everybody is a rapist for hugging their family members and friends.
it not hugging that is bad, it's forcing and/or pressuring others to have intimate physical contact that is, it can be uncomfortable and specialy when you don't know what the person pressuring you have in mind
Why is this uploaded here? there is no gameplay, or even visuals. simply writing text which we are forced to do one choice, or we fail is not a proper game. Please, if you're going to make a "game" like this again, change your mind and don't publish it. this game gets a 0/10, it might as well just be a novel. Better luck in your next games.
there is clearly a point to this game or novel or whatever the hell you wanna call it.
that you are missing. And no a hug isnt rape. But touching someone and forcing yourself on them is. Also don't hug a person if they do not want you to, all type of physical interaction should have consent for the love of god. and is seems you didn't even finish.....im just tired
ok point of the comment. Your "gameplay" evaluation is bs and your opinion is unwelcome. This is someone telling there experience also its a "short interactive story". It's in the description. Its not a game.
its a story and it SAYS IT
my god.
anyway please please ruminate on why you decided to leave this type of comment on this specific game and maybe talk to someone, see why you reacted like this. Cus my god you are missing the point that's slapping you in the face
look, bub. if you want a rape game with visuals, you are obviously in the wrong place. this isn't a game. it's like one of those "choose your own adventure" style stories, where you have your safe/ good ending where nobody has a bad experience (in which I am certain the dev/ maker of this experience would rather have happened), and then you have your not so good neutral endings. then there's the "true path" of events that actually happened. putting it together in this simple form is difficult enough, they don't need some clueless horndog pissing on something that took actual bravery to post up for the world to see. go touch grass.
it doesnt take bravery to post words anonymously on the internet. this was posted on a gaming website. also, i havent touched my PC in about 100 days. so take that for "touching grass" edit: its been somewhere from 100-150 days. about half a year.
wow, I need to start logging into itchio more often so thati can respond faster to stupidity like this post. I think the fact that this is in the form of a text based experience, and available for anybody to "play", makes it that much braver than your keyboard warrior bravado gives it credit for, go back to Twitter if all you are going to do is spread cancer like it's butter on toast.
Respect? All that I am doing is criticizing somebody's artistic work, which is completely fine and normal. You're the ones who don't seem to understand that
I am posting this before playing I am not forward to this but... I want to see if I'm now strong enough to handle it (I was raped myself)... if not, I've got a pack of cigarettes ready for me.
I'll edit with my reaction... just to say if I was strong enough...
Edit: Damn... not ready... I was not ready... Oh God... I'm so so so sorry that you went through this...
Apologies for my earlier comments if you saw them. Regardless of my political views (which I now see were entirely inappropriate to bring up on such a sensitive topic and under this personal experience), I do hope you're alright. However alright you can be, given the circumstances. Okay, that's truly all, goodbye.
Curse my curiosity, this stung. Great game, I feel like it really pushes the boundaries of what some people consider consent. Though I do wish the options were less black and white, in the sense that it's clear which is obviously wrong. I feel like that would prompt one to think about what truly is clear and concise consent. All in all though, I love this game. My heart goes out to you and all who have faced similar scenarios.
I could feel the fear of the person being raped in game; I've luckily never have had to deal with sexual assult, which I'm very thankful for, and this game has really opened my eyes. The general assumption, or idea of rape is a woman flailing about and attempting to escape her attacker, but in reality, rape is often done by someone you thought you trusted, like a family member or close friend. Someone you thought you were safe with. Thank you for sharing this. You are very brave.
I'm here for you. I'm starting a group in discord. If you want, you can join my private server. (note: you'll have to make a Discord account and tell me you Discord name and friend # so I can invite you) Please don't hesitate. This will be the start of a new. I am creating this for all of you who suffered the same as me and her. I'm here to help make a change to this world.
Actual confusion here, but how exactly does the masturbation rape thing work? I'm not trying to sound like an asshole, just trying to figure it out. I wanna know where lines would crossed at. Not as a potential rapist, but as a past rapee. Thanks in advance.
You are being an insensitive asshole with no empathy here. You hate those movements, it's you opinion. But why bring up on the game that tell about their assault experience?
its just a bad thing to bring up under a game of someone sharing their rape experience, do you have any self awareness? or anything to back up your claims?
Honestly I agree with you, not supporting those movements is actually kind of logical. For me the #TeachMenNotToRape is especially bad as it generalizes all men as potential rapists while also ignoring the fact that men are also sexually assaulted by women and are usually looked down upon when they do anything to retaliate, such as fighting back or taking legal action, but there are of course exceptions to people who support the movements as there is with anything so I can't say they're all bad or good, just misled. And I hope that guy gets what he deserves as well.
Please give an actual response that isn't just you hating on men and give reasons why people should support the movements that have gotten innocent people locked up and to gives little boys the idea that they are a problem and make little girls fear them for no reason. Also #TeachMenNotToRape is just completely sexist, ask any sane human being, man or woman, and they will tell you the same.
I mean you're the one here not giving any reasons saying why you're right and I'm wrong so why don't you do your own research, also I'm only arguing with you because you're not making a valid point or even backing your own arguments, and I can't tell if you read my replies or just replied to attempt to insult me but this shows that you approve of putting innocent people in prison and psychologically abusing little boys with your stupid movements because all of your twitter friends think you're helping people. If you reply to this please at least tell me what research you did or why you think that men are the problem.
i would advise when you are arguing your point that you keep in mind that it falls on you to cite sources and prove your point not to the other person to look up your evidenc
if you want to shut someone down and call them dumb bring actual facts or retaliate with more than "men bad"
give reasons as to why you are correct. you cant just cry men bad when someone brings a valid point and responds civilly. that is not a way to respond if you want people to respect you
you saying "not all men!!" means you can't see the problem and are part of it. i'm not going to waste my time trying to educate someone who doesn't want to acknowledge facts. if you want you you can go and educate yourself xx
this is what i meant giving the ultimatum of you are either with me or against me is wrong and doesnt fix anything as it just makes you look like an asshole and will never lead to an actual solution as it antagonizes the only people who agree with you
it also completely ignores the fact that you didnt even attempt to acknowledge the argument i made refused to give any reasonable evidence and said you were correct
I'm gonna be honest, I do agree with you, especially about the 2nd one "TeachMenNotToRape", this really gives off the feeling that every person that's a man is a rapist, it's exactly like you said, "stupid rhetoric".
yeah i Hope this motherfucker the worst sentence possible, but fr tho, if that happens to you, the creator of this game again or anyone else reading this, report him or her, and if the police do nothing, ask your family or (real) friends for help, you're not alone. (Btw remember of taking therapy, it can help a lot)
Are you a male?, I felt like the way you comments really felt like one, because it reflect the way you though about certain topic and experience related to gender issue you have encountered. #metoo movement is actually a movement where a women or different genders shared their experiences of being sexual assault, sexual harassment or survive those but suffer from PTSD and actually support others throught the hard time. The one that portrayed #metoo in a terrible way are basically a feminists with prejudice who accused without of evidence with led to the movement being portrayed in a negative way. The fact that you comment without reserching like that really show how ignorant you are.
Also that phase "men who do shit like this (for the most part) know it's not accepted by society, they don't care" just prove #teachmennottorape that, even if it was portrayed in negative way, at least it bring some attention to the issue instead of people ignoring it. At least it would bring some awareness to those men who committed those crimes that that the victim are not going to just standing there and let them assaulted and get away with it.
I just feel like there's a better way than proposing all men as potential rapists. Maybe that's just me. It suggests men don't know that rape is a thing, or a bad thing. It's not exactly accepted by modern society. I just feel there's a better way to bring attention to the issue.
So sharing an experience of being sexual assault is just a means for an end? That's kind of insensitive mindset don't you think. Imagine if you got raped will you still have the same mindset?
" everything is fine. Everything is ok. Everything is good. They will talk to you soon and we will sort this out. This will feel better soon. " really some guys think women are commodity or objects that they do whatever they want with, then they could just move on with it, and if the woman reject they tell her she's not thinking straight and she's sad and miserable. </3
What a wonderful game, thank you for making it and I'm so sorry this happened to you. It really highlights consent and issues around it. Thanks so much.
Oh god, I am so, so sorry this happened to you...*hugs* It's so incredibly brave of you to make a game about your experience and sharing it. Wishing you all the best!
Holy shit, your (hopefully) ex-friend is a terrible person, if they couldn't see anything wrong with that. I felt vile playing that, and I'm so sorry you lived it. I didn't want to see the other ending, of the not respecting boundaries, I can't get over the fact this person could live with themselves after this? I read the other comments, about how you got barraged by hate commenters, and rape apologists, and I'm so sorry, truly that must make this feel worse, even after all this happened. I'm deeply glad you found better friends and a therapist who wanted the best for you.
Oh wow...this game helps bring light to a situation of my past that I felt was a loss due to me not...protecting myself well enough...? For not speaking up on what I wanted. Pretending I was fine when I was asked certain things...I too felt shoxked by Simon I thought was a friend...and now I have such strong feeling of disgust towards her...Especially when she had the nerve to talk about what happened, I felt so embarrassed when getting news of it being spoken to someone in my school. Talking about it as though it was nothing, when it was a horrible situation for me, I still feel affected everyone I think of that night...but it seems none of them understand the mild trauma it gave me. Like shit, I can relate to a lot of these feeling of dissassociation, and hiding the pain and sadness....I don't know what it is that makes us go along with what they want...
And that part where it asks, did they cum? "You didn't ask"..."they were in too much pain"...etc...like I really felt that, I didn't think about how I wasn't asked these things either...It makes me want to cry thinking about it.
Sorry for the rambling, I just feel...some acknowledgement from this...that how I feel after that *is* valid, and is a form of rape and lack of concent. Thank you for giving me that..♡
I mean, the last thing I should've done was played this game due to a lot of stuff that has happened to me.
I'm so sorry that you had to go through this and that there are many like us that go through things like this. The disassociation hit me harder than I expected it to.
Regardless, this is a beautiful game. I don't know you but I'm so proud of you. You've made something amazing, shared your story, and you've grown. I haven't managed to do those things yet. As cheesy as it sounds, you're an inspiration.
First of all, I'm so so so sorry you had to live such a terrible experience. I can't even begin to imagine how damaging it is, how terrible to remember, how wounding... I can only relate to the paralysis felt in a particular moment, to the self-doubting, to the fear and the tension, and that is but a fraction of it.
Then again, I do want to congratulate you on rebuilding your life. I'm really impressed and humbled at the massive amount of work you must have done to place trust in anyone again. To trust yourself, even if you were the victim. To trust your friends, who were trying to open your eyes. To trust anyone else in general... Seriously, hats off to you.
Lastly, I want to give you a massive thank you for sharing your experience. I won't pretend or claim to understand what it feels like, but at least now I have a glimpse. An extremely valuable reminder for the future.
Hope this masterpiece reaches a lot of people. This is a topic that isn't discussed enough.
Thank you so much, what a thoughtful and touching comment. I try not to think about this game too much anymore, because the memories it brings up are painful. Sometimes I think about deleting it so I don't have to see it, and occasionally I get hate mail from rape apologists (Yes, they really exist. My game got posted in an anti-consent forum, so they flooded it with bad reviews and filled my inbox with bile. One person was very angry that I linked my ko-fi account in the description??), but as long as this game has the potential to help others and shed light on the tricky area of grey consent and unacknowledged rape, then I will keep it up.
I'm sorry this happened to you. Thank you for sharing your experience and spreading awareness. No one should have to go through any type of sexual assault.
Games like this make me wish I had money to share with devs!
Thanks for giving us the opportunity to listen to what happened in an accessible format. It was grim but digestable and made a really clear dialogue. Consent is so important!
Thanks for the effort of creating this experience.
As I was playing it, I have remembered many moments of my life in which communication was failing. Many times I would have loved to be able to pause things, think carefully about what was happening.
You threw some light on these old confusing moments. Thank you.
I replayed the game multiple times, basically taking it in degrees - I started out by leaving Amy alone, and then my next time I left it alone after the hug, and so on and so forth. It was an unpleasant and impactful surprise when the player character continued to go forth anyway without me choosing for them to do so. It sort of emphasized the non-consensual atmosphere and made it go both ways, to Amy and to the player (although of course having a video game character not listen to my input is nowhere near the same experience as being raped).
I also just want to mention that the phrase "You can try to rape me again if you like" really drove it all home for me. It's one thing for a character I'm controlling to rape "someone" but it's on another level to rape "you," never mind making multiple attempts at it.
This is a really thoughtful comment, thank you so much for playing. I think you picked up on a lot of what I was hoping to achieve. There is a point where sexual assault has already happened, and after that it's no longer possible to get a 'good' ending. It's not supposed to be a pleasent game (but I'm hoping that future game attempts will be more light hearted!)
I was not prepared to have to explicitly choose all of this. For some reason the series of things just has my whole person going "Don't even think about, man! There might be a story there, but at why's cost?!"
Well. While I'm still not sure what would happen if I tried anything, Amy is safe in bed and sleeping contently.
(Aka. I couldn't bring myself to do that, even fictionally. : P)
Heh, this is something which is happening to my friends too. They are excited for my game but a lot of them have their own traumatic experiences so can't actually play it!
It's supposed to be hard to make these choices, so in a way I'm glad you're not finding it easy to play. You got the best ending, though, so go you! And thanks for the feedback.
As a game, this is great and it is thought provoking. My feelings on this are obviously going to be different from yours, though. Trying to fit in with your friend does not fit the definition of coercion. If you are uncomfortable in a situation it's your responsibility to bail. You did as much of a disservice to your friend by consenting, because some guys are not very adept at understanding body language and double meanings. When you say yes but you clearly mean no, that is going to be a huge problem for someone who already expressed to you that they have trouble with just this sort of thing!
Thanks for your feedback! Some clarifications: They were not a man. They did not express that they had any trouble with body language and double meanings. There is more to the story here, which the game doesn't get into. An example of a time when people say 'yes' to sexual contact which is coersive would be if there was abuse involved or fear of punishment in some form. I have been around people who make sure to get verbal consent (for non-sexual assault situations) through intimidation and fear, and then use that verbal 'consent' as a gaslighting tool.
I would categorise that friendship as abusive. This person knew exactly which boundaries to walk right up to, and which they could cross. I don't think they planned on me waking up. "uncomfortable in a situation" etc is a far cry from "woke up to sexual assault".
I would say that it is not always the responsibility of someone to bail when they are uncomfortable - purely because some people cannot bail when they are uncomfortable. There's a great book called 'Ask: Building consent culture" which talks about this, and a famous book about date rape called "I never called it rape" by Robin Warshaw which is based around this issue too. Recommended reading if consent is an issue you want to explore!
Thanks for playing though, this is great feedback and I'm glad that conversations about consent are happening around this game.
"Consent is a mutual verbal, physical, and emotional agreement that happens without manipulation, threats, or head games.
Consent is a whole body experience. It is not just a verbal “yes” or “no” – it involves paying attention to your partner as a person and checking in with physical and emotional cues as well.
Consent is also mutual (both people have to agree) and must be continuous. You can stop at any time, you can change your mind, and just because you said yes to one thing doesn’t mean you have consented to anything else."
Thanks for replying! You know, you make some really valid points and I feel really ill-equipped to debate this with you any further, nor would I want to because I now find myself thinking about this a lot differently. You seem to have devoted a lot of time not only to processing your experience but also evidently giving the subject a scholarly treatment. Thanks for making such an interesting and intruiging game, and for also taking the time to discuss the sensitive subject it covers.
No problem! I like having these kind of conversations and I'm always happy to talk about consent stuff. Thanks for taking the time to interact and leave your feedback, much appreciated.
Omg...I want to cry reading this....It's so strengthening for me.
"Consent is a whole body experience. It is not just a verbal “yes” or “no” – it involves paying attention to your partner as a person and checking in with physical and emotional cues as well." Okay some tears were shed...But it's because of feeling like "finally someone gets it" There was no consideration for you nor I in these real life circumstances we were placed in, and that's what draws hatred in me....Also, I find it odd how they were both (possible) girls from what you comment states...? Maybe I'm being too honest, but I feel like it with how you were so honest with so many here. And getting that recognition I seek on this backplaced memory that plagues my mind. Much love for you dear ♡, I will follow you for support.
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Another thing, which you clearly don't seem to understand, is that hugging does not equal rape. If so, then everybody is a rapist for hugging their family members and friends.
shut up
it not hugging that is bad, it's forcing and/or pressuring others to have intimate physical contact that is, it can be uncomfortable and specialy when you don't know what the person pressuring you have in mind
first of all, you pressure amy/laurie into hugging (A CLEAR PROBLEM) and if you play more you gradually fall into the category we call rape
Why is this uploaded here? there is no gameplay, or even visuals. simply writing text which we are forced to do one choice, or we fail is not a proper game. Please, if you're going to make a "game" like this again, change your mind and don't publish it. this game gets a 0/10, it might as well just be a novel. Better luck in your next games.
ayo, my guy.
stfu please for the love of god.
there is clearly a point to this game or novel or whatever the hell you wanna call it.
that you are missing. And no a hug isnt rape. But touching someone and forcing yourself on them is. Also don't hug a person if they do not want you to, all type of physical interaction should have consent for the love of god. and is seems you didn't even finish.....im just tired
ok point of the comment. Your "gameplay" evaluation is bs and your opinion is unwelcome. This is someone telling there experience also its a "short interactive story". It's in the description. Its not a game.
its a story and it SAYS IT
my god.
anyway please please ruminate on why you decided to leave this type of comment on this specific game and maybe talk to someone, see why you reacted like this. Cus my god you are missing the point that's slapping you in the face
Cope, commie.
your sad
like really sad lol
You're*
Sorry,
"You're* sad
like really sad lol"
bro liked his own comment
youre going to die alone
How so? For giving an honest evaluation on a "story" (if we can even call it that) which quite frankly, it's shit.
look, bub. if you want a rape game with visuals, you are obviously in the wrong place. this isn't a game. it's like one of those "choose your own adventure" style stories, where you have your safe/ good ending where nobody has a bad experience (in which I am certain the dev/ maker of this experience would rather have happened), and then you have your not so good neutral endings. then there's the "true path" of events that actually happened. putting it together in this simple form is difficult enough, they don't need some clueless horndog pissing on something that took actual bravery to post up for the world to see. go touch grass.
it doesnt take bravery to post words anonymously on the internet. this was posted on a gaming website. also, i havent touched my PC in about 100 days. so take that for "touching grass" edit: its been somewhere from 100-150 days. about half a year.
wow, I need to start logging into itchio more often so thati can respond faster to stupidity like this post. I think the fact that this is in the form of a text based experience, and available for anybody to "play", makes it that much braver than your keyboard warrior bravado gives it credit for, go back to Twitter if all you are going to do is spread cancer like it's butter on toast.
wow, seems like somebody 's parents clearly didn't love their child enough to teach them basic fucking respect for other human beings and their trauma
learn some goddamn manners you corpulent fice
Respect? All that I am doing is criticizing somebody's artistic work, which is completely fine and normal. You're the ones who don't seem to understand that
I am posting this before playing I am not forward to this but... I want to see if I'm now strong enough to handle it (I was raped myself)... if not, I've got a pack of cigarettes ready for me.
I'll edit with my reaction... just to say if I was strong enough...
Edit: Damn... not ready... I was not ready... Oh God... I'm so so so sorry that you went through this...
reading your comment and im sorry you also went through that. i hope you are doing alright
I think a lot of you fail to realize (cough cough seofts) that this is a story based off someone who touched the creator of this.
It literally says so in the description.
this is heartbraking.
Apologies for my earlier comments if you saw them. Regardless of my political views (which I now see were entirely inappropriate to bring up on such a sensitive topic and under this personal experience), I do hope you're alright. However alright you can be, given the circumstances. Okay, that's truly all, goodbye.
nothing u said was insensitive.
Curse my curiosity, this stung. Great game, I feel like it really pushes the boundaries of what some people consider consent. Though I do wish the options were less black and white, in the sense that it's clear which is obviously wrong. I feel like that would prompt one to think about what truly is clear and concise consent. All in all though, I love this game. My heart goes out to you and all who have faced similar scenarios.
I could feel the fear of the person being raped in game; I've luckily never have had to deal with sexual assult, which I'm very thankful for, and this game has really opened my eyes. The general assumption, or idea of rape is a woman flailing about and attempting to escape her attacker, but in reality, rape is often done by someone you thought you trusted, like a family member or close friend. Someone you thought you were safe with. Thank you for sharing this. You are very brave.
... not in the mood to look at the rest of the comments but fucking amazing job!!!!! so powerful and excited to see what u do next :00
man some of yall fucking SUCK in the comments.
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Actual confusion here, but how exactly does the masturbation rape thing work? I'm not trying to sound like an asshole, just trying to figure it out. I wanna know where lines would crossed at. Not as a potential rapist, but as a past rapee. Thanks in advance.
Probably about making another person felt extremely uncomfortable.
Got it. That makes sense.
You are being an insensitive asshole with no empathy here. You hate those movements, it's you opinion. But why bring up on the game that tell about their assault experience?
its just a bad thing to bring up under a game of someone sharing their rape experience, do you have any self awareness? or anything to back up your claims?
just say ur a man and go
ur a man and go
you deserve to bathe in barbed wire you quisquilian rakefire
honestly just throw your phone out of a window, that way you won't be able to spread your diseased comments on the internet
you deserve to go and get some bitches instead of acting dumb on the internet <3
i'm married <3
i also love how your ENTIRE internet personality is that you hate men lol
go slither back into whatever pit of tartarus you squelched out of, i'm fucking done arguing
my entire personality is not hating men. it is hating misogyny. good night.
Honestly I agree with you, not supporting those movements is actually kind of logical. For me the #TeachMenNotToRape is especially bad as it generalizes all men as potential rapists while also ignoring the fact that men are also sexually assaulted by women and are usually looked down upon when they do anything to retaliate, such as fighting back or taking legal action, but there are of course exceptions to people who support the movements as there is with anything so I can't say they're all bad or good, just misled. And I hope that guy gets what he deserves as well.
you two are fucking insane just say ur BOTH men and go omfg how can two people be this dumb
Please give an actual response that isn't just you hating on men and give reasons why people should support the movements that have gotten innocent people locked up and to gives little boys the idea that they are a problem and make little girls fear them for no reason. Also #TeachMenNotToRape is just completely sexist, ask any sane human being, man or woman, and they will tell you the same.
how about you do some research yourself and stop being ignorant? i'm not about to waste my time with two idiot men.
I mean you're the one here not giving any reasons saying why you're right and I'm wrong so why don't you do your own research, also I'm only arguing with you because you're not making a valid point or even backing your own arguments, and I can't tell if you read my replies or just replied to attempt to insult me but this shows that you approve of putting innocent people in prison and psychologically abusing little boys with your stupid movements because all of your twitter friends think you're helping people. If you reply to this please at least tell me what research you did or why you think that men are the problem.
i would advise when you are arguing your point that you keep in mind that it falls on you to cite sources and prove your point not to the other person to look up your evidenc
#reported
im just going to put this here but
if you want to shut someone down and call them dumb bring actual facts or retaliate with more than "men bad"
give reasons as to why you are correct. you cant just cry men bad when someone brings a valid point and responds civilly. that is not a way to respond if you want people to respect you
you saying "not all men!!" means you can't see the problem and are part of it. i'm not going to waste my time trying to educate someone who doesn't want to acknowledge facts. if you want you you can go and educate yourself xx
this is what i meant giving the ultimatum of you are either with me or against me is wrong and doesnt fix anything as it just makes you look like an asshole and will never lead to an actual solution as it antagonizes the only people who agree with you
it also completely ignores the fact that you didnt even attempt to acknowledge the argument i made refused to give any reasonable evidence and said you were correct
I'm gonna be honest, I do agree with you, especially about the 2nd one "TeachMenNotToRape", this really gives off the feeling that every person that's a man is a rapist, it's exactly like you said, "stupid rhetoric".
yeah i Hope this motherfucker the worst sentence possible, but fr tho, if that happens to you, the creator of this game again or anyone else reading this, report him or her, and if the police do nothing, ask your family or (real) friends for help, you're not alone. (Btw remember of taking therapy, it can help a lot)
Are you a male?, I felt like the way you comments really felt like one, because it reflect the way you though about certain topic and experience related to gender issue you have encountered. #metoo movement is actually a movement where a women or different genders shared their experiences of being sexual assault, sexual harassment or survive those but suffer from PTSD and actually support others throught the hard time. The one that portrayed #metoo in a terrible way are basically a feminists with prejudice who accused without of evidence with led to the movement being portrayed in a negative way. The fact that you comment without reserching like that really show how ignorant you are.
No idea what my gender has to do with this. Anyway, once again, I'm sorry, this was truly insensitive of me.
Also that phase "men who do shit like this (for the most part) know it's not accepted by society, they don't care" just prove #teachmennottorape that, even if it was portrayed in negative way, at least it bring some attention to the issue instead of people ignoring it. At least it would bring some awareness to those men who committed those crimes that that the victim are not going to just standing there and let them assaulted and get away with it.
I just feel like there's a better way than proposing all men as potential rapists. Maybe that's just me. It suggests men don't know that rape is a thing, or a bad thing. It's not exactly accepted by modern society. I just feel there's a better way to bring attention to the issue.
Wow, this hit close to home... I can't put my feelings into words well but I really hope that this game and therapy is helping you heal<3
well this game was boring lol
I mean...you're not wrong. But it was probably a means for her to get her feelings out.
So sharing an experience of being sexual assault is just a means for an end? That's kind of insensitive mindset don't you think. Imagine if you got raped will you still have the same mindset?
That's not what I fucking said. All I said was she was expressing her feelings.
" everything is fine. Everything is ok. Everything is good. They will talk to you soon and we will sort this out. This will feel better soon. " really some guys think women are commodity or objects that they do whatever they want with, then they could just move on with it, and if the woman reject they tell her she's not thinking straight and she's sad and miserable. </3
dude, she was raped.
Dickbag
Eat shit, you annoying asshole. What the fuck is wrong with you?
lol
You are probably the person who thought sexual assault is a funny thing.
What a wonderful game, thank you for making it and I'm so sorry this happened to you. It really highlights consent and issues around it. Thanks so much.
Oh god, I am so, so sorry this happened to you...*hugs* It's so incredibly brave of you to make a game about your experience and sharing it. Wishing you all the best!
the hugs thing. It started whith that.
I'm terribly sorry that you had to go through this.
But it's really brave and admirable of you to turn such a terrible experience into a short game that can function as a teaching tool.
I hope things are better now, and i wish you all the love in the world. Stay strong!
I'm so so sorry you went through this. I hope you're doing better today.
Holy shit, your (hopefully) ex-friend is a terrible person, if they couldn't see anything wrong with that. I felt vile playing that, and I'm so sorry you lived it. I didn't want to see the other ending, of the not respecting boundaries, I can't get over the fact this person could live with themselves after this? I read the other comments, about how you got barraged by hate commenters, and rape apologists, and I'm so sorry, truly that must make this feel worse, even after all this happened. I'm deeply glad you found better friends and a therapist who wanted the best for you.
Well , hope whoever made this game is ok today
Oh wow...this game helps bring light to a situation of my past that I felt was a loss due to me not...protecting myself well enough...? For not speaking up on what I wanted. Pretending I was fine when I was asked certain things...I too felt shoxked by Simon I thought was a friend...and now I have such strong feeling of disgust towards her...Especially when she had the nerve to talk about what happened, I felt so embarrassed when getting news of it being spoken to someone in my school. Talking about it as though it was nothing, when it was a horrible situation for me, I still feel affected everyone I think of that night...but it seems none of them understand the mild trauma it gave me. Like shit, I can relate to a lot of these feeling of dissassociation, and hiding the pain and sadness....I don't know what it is that makes us go along with what they want...
And that part where it asks, did they cum? "You didn't ask"..."they were in too much pain"...etc...like I really felt that, I didn't think about how I wasn't asked these things either...It makes me want to cry thinking about it.
Sorry for the rambling, I just feel...some acknowledgement from this...that how I feel after that *is* valid, and is a form of rape and lack of concent. Thank you for giving me that..♡
I mean, the last thing I should've done was played this game due to a lot of stuff that has happened to me.
I'm so sorry that you had to go through this and that there are many like us that go through things like this. The disassociation hit me harder than I expected it to.
Regardless, this is a beautiful game. I don't know you but I'm so proud of you. You've made something amazing, shared your story, and you've grown. I haven't managed to do those things yet. As cheesy as it sounds, you're an inspiration.
I created an account only to comment this.
First of all, I'm so so so sorry you had to live such a terrible experience. I can't even begin to imagine how damaging it is, how terrible to remember, how wounding... I can only relate to the paralysis felt in a particular moment, to the self-doubting, to the fear and the tension, and that is but a fraction of it.
Then again, I do want to congratulate you on rebuilding your life. I'm really impressed and humbled at the massive amount of work you must have done to place trust in anyone again. To trust yourself, even if you were the victim. To trust your friends, who were trying to open your eyes. To trust anyone else in general... Seriously, hats off to you.
Lastly, I want to give you a massive thank you for sharing your experience. I won't pretend or claim to understand what it feels like, but at least now I have a glimpse. An extremely valuable reminder for the future.
Hope this masterpiece reaches a lot of people. This is a topic that isn't discussed enough.
Thank you so much, what a thoughtful and touching comment. I try not to think about this game too much anymore, because the memories it brings up are painful. Sometimes I think about deleting it so I don't have to see it, and occasionally I get hate mail from rape apologists (Yes, they really exist. My game got posted in an anti-consent forum, so they flooded it with bad reviews and filled my inbox with bile. One person was very angry that I linked my ko-fi account in the description??), but as long as this game has the potential to help others and shed light on the tricky area of grey consent and unacknowledged rape, then I will keep it up.
I am so sorry this happened to you! If you ever need someone to talk to, please find me on twitter! @karlie.thereal
I'm sorry this happened to you. Thank you for sharing your experience and spreading awareness. No one should have to go through any type of sexual assault.
I hope you are doing better and have a nice day.
Games like this make me wish I had money to share with devs!
Thanks for giving us the opportunity to listen to what happened in an accessible format. It was grim but digestable and made a really clear dialogue. Consent is so important!
Thank you for making and sharing this.
This sounds a lot like something that happened to me, and reading through it from an outside perspective was really cathartic.
You're brave for sharing this in this way. I'll get better too.
Thank you for making this "game" or maybe.. Thank you for sharing your experience..
I hope you have recovered well enough to live happily once again.
Thank you.
Thank you for sharing this experience with me.
I am living a very full and happy life.
Thanks for the effort of creating this experience.
As I was playing it, I have remembered many moments of my life in which communication was failing. Many times I would have loved to be able to pause things, think carefully about what was happening.
You threw some light on these old confusing moments. Thank you.
I replayed the game multiple times, basically taking it in degrees - I started out by leaving Amy alone, and then my next time I left it alone after the hug, and so on and so forth. It was an unpleasant and impactful surprise when the player character continued to go forth anyway without me choosing for them to do so. It sort of emphasized the non-consensual atmosphere and made it go both ways, to Amy and to the player (although of course having a video game character not listen to my input is nowhere near the same experience as being raped).
I also just want to mention that the phrase "You can try to rape me again if you like" really drove it all home for me. It's one thing for a character I'm controlling to rape "someone" but it's on another level to rape "you," never mind making multiple attempts at it.
This is a really thoughtful comment, thank you so much for playing. I think you picked up on a lot of what I was hoping to achieve. There is a point where sexual assault has already happened, and after that it's no longer possible to get a 'good' ending. It's not supposed to be a pleasent game (but I'm hoping that future game attempts will be more light hearted!)
Thanks for your feedback!
I was not prepared to have to explicitly choose all of this. For some reason the series of things just has my whole person going "Don't even think about, man! There might be a story there, but at why's cost?!"
Well. While I'm still not sure what would happen if I tried anything, Amy is safe in bed and sleeping contently.
(Aka. I couldn't bring myself to do that, even fictionally. : P)
Heh, this is something which is happening to my friends too. They are excited for my game but a lot of them have their own traumatic experiences so can't actually play it!
It's supposed to be hard to make these choices, so in a way I'm glad you're not finding it easy to play. You got the best ending, though, so go you! And thanks for the feedback.
That got intense; nice game well done!
Thank you so much!
As a game, this is great and it is thought provoking. My feelings on this are obviously going to be different from yours, though. Trying to fit in with your friend does not fit the definition of coercion. If you are uncomfortable in a situation it's your responsibility to bail. You did as much of a disservice to your friend by consenting, because some guys are not very adept at understanding body language and double meanings. When you say yes but you clearly mean no, that is going to be a huge problem for someone who already expressed to you that they have trouble with just this sort of thing!
Thanks for your feedback! Some clarifications: They were not a man. They did not express that they had any trouble with body language and double meanings. There is more to the story here, which the game doesn't get into. An example of a time when people say 'yes' to sexual contact which is coersive would be if there was abuse involved or fear of punishment in some form. I have been around people who make sure to get verbal consent (for non-sexual assault situations) through intimidation and fear, and then use that verbal 'consent' as a gaslighting tool.
I would categorise that friendship as abusive. This person knew exactly which boundaries to walk right up to, and which they could cross. I don't think they planned on me waking up. "uncomfortable in a situation" etc is a far cry from "woke up to sexual assault".
I would say that it is not always the responsibility of someone to bail when they are uncomfortable - purely because some people cannot bail when they are uncomfortable. There's a great book called 'Ask: Building consent culture" which talks about this, and a famous book about date rape called "I never called it rape" by Robin Warshaw which is based around this issue too. Recommended reading if consent is an issue you want to explore!
Thanks for playing though, this is great feedback and I'm glad that conversations about consent are happening around this game.
Oh also! You might benefit from looking at the definitions of consent and coercion on this website: https://www.yesmeansyes.com/consent
"Consent is a mutual verbal, physical, and emotional agreement that happens without manipulation, threats, or head games.
Consent is a whole body experience. It is not just a verbal “yes” or “no” – it involves paying attention to your partner as a person and checking in with physical and emotional cues as well.
Consent is also mutual (both people have to agree) and must be continuous. You can stop at any time, you can change your mind, and just because you said yes to one thing doesn’t mean you have consented to anything else."
Thanks for replying! You know, you make some really valid points and I feel really ill-equipped to debate this with you any further, nor would I want to because I now find myself thinking about this a lot differently. You seem to have devoted a lot of time not only to processing your experience but also evidently giving the subject a scholarly treatment. Thanks for making such an interesting and intruiging game, and for also taking the time to discuss the sensitive subject it covers.
No problem! I like having these kind of conversations and I'm always happy to talk about consent stuff. Thanks for taking the time to interact and leave your feedback, much appreciated.
Omg...I want to cry reading this....It's so strengthening for me.
"Consent is a whole body experience. It is not just a verbal “yes” or “no” – it involves paying attention to your partner as a person and checking in with physical and emotional cues as well." Okay some tears were shed...But it's because of feeling like "finally someone gets it" There was no consideration for you nor I in these real life circumstances we were placed in, and that's what draws hatred in me....Also, I find it odd how they were both (possible) girls from what you comment states...? Maybe I'm being too honest, but I feel like it with how you were so honest with so many here. And getting that recognition I seek on this backplaced memory that plagues my mind. Much love for you dear ♡, I will follow you for support.